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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am new to ruby and am loving it. The ease, the new way it makes a programmer think, the freedom to implement anything I want very fast are all I love about this. Scaling - well, its ready for the enterprise. I hope the revolution continues and rails makes more changes. \
I always felt like I was inside a box trying to make something when working with Java, but now its like I&#039;m flying and can grab anything I want quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am new to ruby and am loving it. The ease, the new way it makes a programmer think, the freedom to implement anything I want very fast are all I love about this. Scaling &#8211; well, its ready for the enterprise. I hope the revolution continues and rails makes more changes. \<br />
I always felt like I was inside a box trying to make something when working with Java, but now its like I&#8217;m flying and can grab anything I want quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: thruflo</title>
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		<dc:creator>thruflo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erm, Python...?  The functional differences with Ruby can be counted on the fingers of one (tiny) hand.

&quot;Python fits your brain&quot;.  Nope, no echos there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erm, Python&#8230;?  The functional differences with Ruby can be counted on the fingers of one (tiny) hand.</p>
<p>&#8220;Python fits your brain&#8221;.  Nope, no echos there.</p>
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		<title>By: Flow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Digest for November 17th - The zeitgeist daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flow &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Digest for November 17th - The zeitgeist daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A revolution is an eye-opener.. Ruby cannot be compared to a dictionary definition because in software Ruby is a colossal language which has the same problems like any other project that faces changes. The context is software which has the problems with changes and the associated learning curve. 

Ruby brought in the revolution and sooner or later there will be another language that will bring in Ruby&#039;s revolutionary concepts and improve it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A revolution is an eye-opener.. Ruby cannot be compared to a dictionary definition because in software Ruby is a colossal language which has the same problems like any other project that faces changes. The context is software which has the problems with changes and the associated learning curve. </p>
<p>Ruby brought in the revolution and sooner or later there will be another language that will bring in Ruby&#8217;s revolutionary concepts and improve it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the revolution is over but not with your conclusion.

To me, Ruby on Rails came and went.  It didn&#039;t take over the world, the number of job postings on boards is still vanishingly small and will probably keep decreasing until it bottoms out.

RoR had a good influence on the software world, but it&#039;s now stuck in a niche with a minuscule mind share and it will soon be a footnote in the software industry.

Ruby itself will probably outlive RoR in popularity, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the revolution is over but not with your conclusion.</p>
<p>To me, Ruby on Rails came and went.  It didn&#8217;t take over the world, the number of job postings on boards is still vanishingly small and will probably keep decreasing until it bottoms out.</p>
<p>RoR had a good influence on the software world, but it&#8217;s now stuck in a niche with a minuscule mind share and it will soon be a footnote in the software industry.</p>
<p>Ruby itself will probably outlive RoR in popularity, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe da Silveira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe da Silveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JP I like your take on this.

Ruby is the language that proved average programmers can get things down without Java&#039;s straitjacket (much as Java proved you don&#039;t need C&#039;s flexibility to be fast enough).

However after a few years of Ruby the limitations of test-driven development (or TATFT if you will) are becoming more and more apparent to me.  Specifically that showing that something is correct in a series of specific test cases is nice, but it&#039;s no replacement for proving the correctness of things ala functional programming.

These days I&#039;m really most excited about Haskell simply because it seems to be the only language that absolutely enforces purity, which is a very useful exercise for moving the state of the art forward, even if we never embrace functional program completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JP I like your take on this.</p>
<p>Ruby is the language that proved average programmers can get things down without Java&#8217;s straitjacket (much as Java proved you don&#8217;t need C&#8217;s flexibility to be fast enough).</p>
<p>However after a few years of Ruby the limitations of test-driven development (or TATFT if you will) are becoming more and more apparent to me.  Specifically that showing that something is correct in a series of specific test cases is nice, but it&#8217;s no replacement for proving the correctness of things ala functional programming.</p>
<p>These days I&#8217;m really most excited about Haskell simply because it seems to be the only language that absolutely enforces purity, which is a very useful exercise for moving the state of the art forward, even if we never embrace functional program completely.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-11-16 &#171; Caiwangqin&#8217;s delicious bog</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-11-16 &#171; Caiwangqin&#8217;s delicious bog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruby is a very nice language.  One of my favorite.  Learned it in 2001 and had paid Ruby gigs long before Rails  emerged in 2005.

For me Ruby has been a gateway to functional programming (Ruby -&gt; Lisp -&gt; OCaml -&gt; Erlang -&gt; Haskell -&gt; Scala).  The challenge of multi-core means we&#039;re headed to a Functional Renaissance.
Unless it&#039;s through JRuby or perhaps Rubinius, I doubt we&#039;ll see Ruby play much in the multi-core, parallel and distributed spaces.

Oh, and don&#039;t ever get too attached to one language.  They come and go like fashions.  Stay nimble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruby is a very nice language.  One of my favorite.  Learned it in 2001 and had paid Ruby gigs long before Rails  emerged in 2005.</p>
<p>For me Ruby has been a gateway to functional programming (Ruby -&gt; Lisp -&gt; OCaml -&gt; Erlang -&gt; Haskell -&gt; Scala).  The challenge of multi-core means we&#8217;re headed to a Functional Renaissance.<br />
Unless it&#8217;s through JRuby or perhaps Rubinius, I doubt we&#8217;ll see Ruby play much in the multi-core, parallel and distributed spaces.</p>
<p>Oh, and don&#8217;t ever get too attached to one language.  They come and go like fashions.  Stay nimble.</p>
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		<title>By: chromatic (chromatic) 's status on Monday, 16-Nov-09 20:12:36 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>chromatic (chromatic) 's status on Monday, 16-Nov-09 20:12:36 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Mottram (motters) 's status on Monday, 16-Nov-09 19:31:56 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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